EComm2008 - Jonathan Christensen of Skype and the “unrealized” vision of SIP…

February 9th, 2008 by Dan York

ecomm2008.jpgOver on the EComm2008 blog, Lee Dryburgh posted the transcript of a fascinating interview with Jonathan Christensen, general manager of audio and video at Skype. The interview is well-worth a read as Jonathan provides a preview of his upcoming keynote at EComm 2008 with his view of Internet-based communication and talks about advances they have made at Skype with regard to wideband audio and echo cancellation. I do definitely agree with his statement around the improvements they’ve made with echo cancellation on the Mac. Ever since upgrading to the latest Skype, I’ve made many calls with it from my MacBook Pro without any headset whatsoever and have been told the quality has been excellent (and it has been for me when I’m talking to other headset-free Skype users).

Much more relevant to this blog, though, were Jonathan’s statements regarding SIP. At the beginning Jonathan mentions how he originally got very excited by the vision of SIP and ran around stirring up interest at Microsoft where he worked then. But at the end of the interview, Lee asked Jonathan to elaborate on his earlier comments about SIP. This is what Jonathan said:

Yes, so just one clarification - we use SIP. Where, by comparison to the other operators, we are one of the largest SIP users in the world. All of our SkypeOut minutes and SkypeIn minutes traverse the PSTN via SIP interfaces, basically. So, we use it as an interop protocol where we need to.

I think that the vision of the early SIP founders has been largely unrealunrealized [See comments] in the SIP world. SIP is typically just used for these very mundane trunking applications, like the one that we have, or sending calls between two networks and it’s just calls. The vision of multi-modal communications and rich end points has largely failed within the same. I think that a big part of this is that they didn’t pragmatically just solve basic problems like NAT traversal, for example. They also evolved the specification to the point that it no longer had its lightweight appeal. So, we’ll see, SIP will continue to be [the] dominant protocol in terms of this sort of narrowly defined scenarios but I think that, when it comes to rich communications, you are going to see more of this fragmentation. You’re going to see some islands of providers who are just solving the problems. Just making it work for the user and not being religious about the protocol for example.

Has the vision of rich communication over SIP been “largely unrealized”? What do you think? Are his statements true? Or exaggerated?

FYI, if you are attending EComm 2008 you’ll have a chance to hear Jonathan Christensen’s keynote directly. And if you aren’t yet attending EComm 2008, why not? :-)

P.S. For the record, we, too, are huge users of SIP for our connections to/from the PSTN and also throughout our hosted Evolution platform as well as our on-premise Prophecy product. Developers on our hosted platform also get by default SIP *and* Skype dial-in numbers for their applications.

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4 Responses to “EComm2008 - Jonathan Christensen of Skype and the “unrealized” vision of SIP…”

  1. Jonathan Christensen Says:

    They got the transcript partially wrong.. I think I said “unrealized” (or meant to say).. vs.”unreal”.. The vision of SIP is very real.. it is embodied in the multi-modal services of Skype for example.

  2. Dan York Says:

    Jonathan, Thank you for the response. As the audio is not yet available I had only the transcription to go on. I’ll make the correction in the text. Thanks.

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